Hayes:
Not a good dribbler
Can't get open for a shot
Can play much better
Gist:
Highlight reel slam dunks
Loves the fade away jumper
Headed for Europe
Vasquez:
Maryland's best player
Excels in taking bad threes
Lots of turnovers
Osby:
Good two year career
Extremely raw on offense
Get passport photo
Milbourne:
Nice FSU Dunk
Teammates ignore him often
Next year's most improved
Gary Williams:
Underachievement
Looks like Hopper in Hoosiers
Time to make changes
Sunday, March 23, 2008
GW Countdown #1 and #2
This year's team was the fifth-worst in GW's nineteen years in College Park. Here are a couple perspectives on the state of MD basketball (glass half-full / glass half-empty):
1. Overall (glass half-full): The median season over the past nineteen years was last year's team that advanced to the second round of the tournament and finished #23 in the nation. There were nine teams that were better than last year and nine teams that were worse.
2. Six years since the title (glass half-empty): 2003 (#17), 2004 (#24), 2005 (Unranked), 2006 (Unranked), 2007 (#23), and 2008 (Unranked). This is not exactly capitalizing on success. The recruiting rankings were significantly higher than performance. The 2003 class (Caner-Medley, Gilchrist, McCray, and Garrison) was ranked #2 in the nation. The 2007 class (Vasquez, Hayes, Milbourne, Burney, Osby) was ranked #22.
Chalk 2008 up as another year in a continuing trend whereby MD had talented players individually that collectively didn't play well together as a team. The fact that MD has had only two players selected in the NBA draft over the past five years (Blake and Strawberry; both second-rounders) doesn't help recruiting.
The glass is half-empty. This is clearly a program in decline.
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#1:
2002:
Final USA Today Ranking: 1
Record: 32 - 4
ACC: 15 - 1 (first)
ACC First Round: Beat FSU by 26
ACC Second Round: Lost to NC State by 4
NCAA Seed: 1
NCAA Round 1: Beat Siena by 15
NCAA Round 2: Beat Wisconsin by 28
NCAA Round 3: Beat Kentucky by 10
NCAA Round 4: Beat UConn by 8
NCAA Round 5: Beat Kansas by 9
NCAA Final: Beat Indiana by 12
NCAA Champion: Maryland
- Dixon (Sr): 20 - 5 - 3 - ACC1 - ACCPOY -- NBA (6+ years, 371 gp, 9 ppg, 2 rpg, 2 apg, $8.6M in career earnings)
- Baxter (Sr): 15 - 8 - 1 - ACC2 -- NBA (4 years, 162 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Wilcox (So): 12 - 7 - 1 - ACC3 -- NBA (6+ years, 374 gp, 9 ppg, 5 rpg, 1 apg, $15M in career earnings)
- Mouton (Sr): 11 - 5 - 2
- Blake (Jr): 8 - 4 - 8 - ACC3 -- NBA (5+ years, 325 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 4 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Nicholas (Jr): 7 - 2 - 2
- Holden (Jr): 6 - 3 - 1
#2:
2001:
Final USA Today Ranking: 4
Record: 25 - 11
ACC: 10 - 6 (third)
ACC First Round: Beat Wake by 18
ACC Second Round: Lost to Duke by 2
ACC Final: Lost to Duke by 13
NCAA Seed: 3
NCAA Round 1: Beat George Mason by 3
NCAA Round 2: Beat Georgia State by 19
NCAA Round 3: Beat Georgetown by 10
NCAA Round 4: Beat Stanford by 14
NCAA Round 5: Lost to Duke by 11
NCAA Champion: Duke
- Dixon (Jr): 18 - 4 - 3 - ACC1 -- NBA (6+ years, 371 gp, 9 ppg, 2 rpg, 2 apg, $8.6M in career earnings)
- Baxter (Jr): 16 - 8 - 1 - ACC2 -- NBA (4 years, 162 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Morris (Sr): 12 - 8 - 2 - ACC3 -- NBA (3 years, 139 gp, 3 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg, $1.8M in career earnings)
- Mouton (Jr): 10 - 4 - 1
- Blake (So): 7 - 3 - 7 -- NBA (5+ years, 325 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 4 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Nicholas (So): 7 - 2 - 3
- Miller (Jr): 5 - 3 - 2
- Wilcox (Fr): 4 - 2 - 1 -- NBA (6+ years, 374 gp, 9 ppg, 5 rpg, 1 apg, $15M in career earnings)
#1. 2002: 32 - 4 (#1 in Nation; #1 Seed - NCAA Champions)
#2. 2001: 25 - 11 (#4 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to Duke in NCAA Final Four)
#3. 1999: 28 - 6 (#8 in Nation; #2 Seed - Lost to St. Johns in NCAA Third Round)
#4. 1995: 26 - 8 (#11 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCONN in NCAA Third Round)
#5. 1994: 18 - 12 (#11 in Nation; #10 Seed - Lost to Michigan in NCAA Third Round)
#6. 2003: 21 - 10 (#17 in Nation; #6 Seed - Lost to Michigan State in NCAA Third Round)
#7. 1998: 21 - 11 (#22 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Arizona in NCAA Third Round)
#8. 2000: 25 - 10 (#25 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCLA in NCAA Second Round)
#9. 2004: 20 - 12 (#24 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Syracuse in NCAA Second Round)
#10. 2007: 25 - 9 (#23 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Butler in NCAA Second Round)
#11. 1997: 21 - 11 (#32 in Nation; #5 Seed - Lost to College of Charleston in NCAA First Round)
#12. 1996: 17 - 13 (#47 in Nation; #7 Seed - Lost to Santa Clara in NCAA First Round)
#13: 2005: 19 - 13 (Lost to South Carolina in NIT Semi-Finals)
#14. 1990: 19 - 14 (Lost at PSU in NIT Second Round)
#15. 2006: 19 - 13 (Lost to Manhattan in NIT First Round)
#16. 1991: 16 - 12 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#17. 1992: 14 - 15 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#18. 1993: 12 - 16 (Did not make NIT or NCAA Tournament)
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
1. Overall (glass half-full): The median season over the past nineteen years was last year's team that advanced to the second round of the tournament and finished #23 in the nation. There were nine teams that were better than last year and nine teams that were worse.
2. Six years since the title (glass half-empty): 2003 (#17), 2004 (#24), 2005 (Unranked), 2006 (Unranked), 2007 (#23), and 2008 (Unranked). This is not exactly capitalizing on success. The recruiting rankings were significantly higher than performance. The 2003 class (Caner-Medley, Gilchrist, McCray, and Garrison) was ranked #2 in the nation. The 2007 class (Vasquez, Hayes, Milbourne, Burney, Osby) was ranked #22.
Chalk 2008 up as another year in a continuing trend whereby MD had talented players individually that collectively didn't play well together as a team. The fact that MD has had only two players selected in the NBA draft over the past five years (Blake and Strawberry; both second-rounders) doesn't help recruiting.
The glass is half-empty. This is clearly a program in decline.
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#1:
2002:
Final USA Today Ranking: 1
Record: 32 - 4
ACC: 15 - 1 (first)
ACC First Round: Beat FSU by 26
ACC Second Round: Lost to NC State by 4
NCAA Seed: 1
NCAA Round 1: Beat Siena by 15
NCAA Round 2: Beat Wisconsin by 28
NCAA Round 3: Beat Kentucky by 10
NCAA Round 4: Beat UConn by 8
NCAA Round 5: Beat Kansas by 9
NCAA Final: Beat Indiana by 12
NCAA Champion: Maryland
- Dixon (Sr): 20 - 5 - 3 - ACC1 - ACCPOY -- NBA (6+ years, 371 gp, 9 ppg, 2 rpg, 2 apg, $8.6M in career earnings)
- Baxter (Sr): 15 - 8 - 1 - ACC2 -- NBA (4 years, 162 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Wilcox (So): 12 - 7 - 1 - ACC3 -- NBA (6+ years, 374 gp, 9 ppg, 5 rpg, 1 apg, $15M in career earnings)
- Mouton (Sr): 11 - 5 - 2
- Blake (Jr): 8 - 4 - 8 - ACC3 -- NBA (5+ years, 325 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 4 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Nicholas (Jr): 7 - 2 - 2
- Holden (Jr): 6 - 3 - 1
#2:
2001:
Final USA Today Ranking: 4
Record: 25 - 11
ACC: 10 - 6 (third)
ACC First Round: Beat Wake by 18
ACC Second Round: Lost to Duke by 2
ACC Final: Lost to Duke by 13
NCAA Seed: 3
NCAA Round 1: Beat George Mason by 3
NCAA Round 2: Beat Georgia State by 19
NCAA Round 3: Beat Georgetown by 10
NCAA Round 4: Beat Stanford by 14
NCAA Round 5: Lost to Duke by 11
NCAA Champion: Duke
- Dixon (Jr): 18 - 4 - 3 - ACC1 -- NBA (6+ years, 371 gp, 9 ppg, 2 rpg, 2 apg, $8.6M in career earnings)
- Baxter (Jr): 16 - 8 - 1 - ACC2 -- NBA (4 years, 162 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Morris (Sr): 12 - 8 - 2 - ACC3 -- NBA (3 years, 139 gp, 3 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg, $1.8M in career earnings)
- Mouton (Jr): 10 - 4 - 1
- Blake (So): 7 - 3 - 7 -- NBA (5+ years, 325 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 4 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Nicholas (So): 7 - 2 - 3
- Miller (Jr): 5 - 3 - 2
- Wilcox (Fr): 4 - 2 - 1 -- NBA (6+ years, 374 gp, 9 ppg, 5 rpg, 1 apg, $15M in career earnings)
#1. 2002: 32 - 4 (#1 in Nation; #1 Seed - NCAA Champions)
#2. 2001: 25 - 11 (#4 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to Duke in NCAA Final Four)
#3. 1999: 28 - 6 (#8 in Nation; #2 Seed - Lost to St. Johns in NCAA Third Round)
#4. 1995: 26 - 8 (#11 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCONN in NCAA Third Round)
#5. 1994: 18 - 12 (#11 in Nation; #10 Seed - Lost to Michigan in NCAA Third Round)
#6. 2003: 21 - 10 (#17 in Nation; #6 Seed - Lost to Michigan State in NCAA Third Round)
#7. 1998: 21 - 11 (#22 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Arizona in NCAA Third Round)
#8. 2000: 25 - 10 (#25 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCLA in NCAA Second Round)
#9. 2004: 20 - 12 (#24 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Syracuse in NCAA Second Round)
#10. 2007: 25 - 9 (#23 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Butler in NCAA Second Round)
#11. 1997: 21 - 11 (#32 in Nation; #5 Seed - Lost to College of Charleston in NCAA First Round)
#12. 1996: 17 - 13 (#47 in Nation; #7 Seed - Lost to Santa Clara in NCAA First Round)
#13: 2005: 19 - 13 (Lost to South Carolina in NIT Semi-Finals)
#14. 1990: 19 - 14 (Lost at PSU in NIT Second Round)
#15. 2006: 19 - 13 (Lost to Manhattan in NIT First Round)
#16. 1991: 16 - 12 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#17. 1992: 14 - 15 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#18. 1993: 12 - 16 (Did not make NIT or NCAA Tournament)
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
Tuesday, March 18, 2008
MD - Minnesota Notes
Nice win. Minnesota's leading scorer (McKenzie) only played three minutes due to an injury.
Here are a few random comments about tonight's game:
- At the 6:33 mark in the second half, Minnesota used 1:18 off the clock with a SIX offensive rebound possession and capped it off with a tip-in. This may be the longest a team has gone without crossing half-court so far this season. It seemed like an eternity because Minnesota kicked it back out to re-start the offense on four of those rebounds. Somehow, MD didn't cave like they had the past four weeks of the season and managed to pick up the win.
- It boggles my mind why teams don't press MD more often. MD's press break is a freakin' circus because neither Vasquez nor Hayes can dribble.
- MD only shot 40% from the floor; Minnesota shot 31%.
- Gary Williams' rotation inconsistency never ceases to amaze me. Tonight, out of nowhere, he decides to dust off DuPree and give him 14 minutes of PT (that is double the collective total he played in over the prior seven games). DuPree delivered (6 pts, 5 boards, and an overall solid active performance on the offensive boards). Neal played 38 minutes over those seven games.
- Burney: He only played two minutes (one less than Neal; I guess that it is a GW requirement). Burney had a very nice finish on a break; not sure why he didn't see more PT.
- Comedy: Vasquez was pressured in the backcourt before using his dribble and proceeded to dribble straight out of bounds (oblivious to the out-of-bounds line). ESPN zoomed in on GW screaming "Why?", "Why?", "Why?" (Nancy Kerrigan-esque). . . it may not seem funny, but, if you watched it, it was hilarious.
- Jimmy Dykes: This guy is always good for at least one comment during the game that makes you wonder why he is still pulling paychecks from ESPN. Tonight's first comment was his take on how Williams Arena is one of the best venues in college basketball because there are some seats that have obstructed views completely blocked by pillars.
- Later, Dykes said that Williams Arena is a unique setting with the court three feet above the ground. I think it would have been better stated as an "ACL waiting to happen" setting.
- Finally, he said that Ryan Anderson may be the top NBA prospect coming out of the PAC 10. I am thinking that he should have prefaced that statement with, "Other than Lopez, Mayo, Bayless, Love, and Westbrook. . ."
Here are a few random comments about tonight's game:
- At the 6:33 mark in the second half, Minnesota used 1:18 off the clock with a SIX offensive rebound possession and capped it off with a tip-in. This may be the longest a team has gone without crossing half-court so far this season. It seemed like an eternity because Minnesota kicked it back out to re-start the offense on four of those rebounds. Somehow, MD didn't cave like they had the past four weeks of the season and managed to pick up the win.
- It boggles my mind why teams don't press MD more often. MD's press break is a freakin' circus because neither Vasquez nor Hayes can dribble.
- MD only shot 40% from the floor; Minnesota shot 31%.
- Gary Williams' rotation inconsistency never ceases to amaze me. Tonight, out of nowhere, he decides to dust off DuPree and give him 14 minutes of PT (that is double the collective total he played in over the prior seven games). DuPree delivered (6 pts, 5 boards, and an overall solid active performance on the offensive boards). Neal played 38 minutes over those seven games.
- Burney: He only played two minutes (one less than Neal; I guess that it is a GW requirement). Burney had a very nice finish on a break; not sure why he didn't see more PT.
- Comedy: Vasquez was pressured in the backcourt before using his dribble and proceeded to dribble straight out of bounds (oblivious to the out-of-bounds line). ESPN zoomed in on GW screaming "Why?", "Why?", "Why?" (Nancy Kerrigan-esque). . . it may not seem funny, but, if you watched it, it was hilarious.
- Jimmy Dykes: This guy is always good for at least one comment during the game that makes you wonder why he is still pulling paychecks from ESPN. Tonight's first comment was his take on how Williams Arena is one of the best venues in college basketball because there are some seats that have obstructed views completely blocked by pillars.
- Later, Dykes said that Williams Arena is a unique setting with the court three feet above the ground. I think it would have been better stated as an "ACL waiting to happen" setting.
- Finally, he said that Ryan Anderson may be the top NBA prospect coming out of the PAC 10. I am thinking that he should have prefaced that statement with, "Other than Lopez, Mayo, Bayless, Love, and Westbrook. . ."
Monday, March 17, 2008
GW Countdown #3 and #4
Listed below are the third and fourth best teams in the GW era. It is interesting to note that the 1999 team had six future NBA players. GW has had a total of 17 NBA players in his 19 years at MD (18 if you count Vasquez).
$50,000,000.
This is the amount of money that Joe Smith lost by turning down a seven year, $80M contract with the Warriors in 1998. He earned a total of $30M in the following seven years. I am guessing that Walt Williams thought it was a bad idea to turn down that contract.
#3:
1999:
Final USA Today Ranking: 8
Record: 28 - 6
ACC: 13 - 3 (second)
ACC First Round: Beat FSU by 24
ACC Second Round: Lost to UNC by 7
NCAA Seed: 2
NCAA Round 1: Beat Valpo by 22
NCAA Round 2: Beat Creighton by 12
NCAA Round 3: Lost to St. Johns by 13 (Artest)
NCAA Champion: UCONN
- Francis (Jr): 17 - 5 - 4 - ACC1 -- NBA (9+ years, 576 gp, 18 ppg, 6 rpg, 6 apg, $65M in career earnings)
- Morris (So): 15 - 7 - 2 - ACC1 -- NBA (3 years, 139 gp, 3 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg, $1.8M in career earnings)
- Profit (Sr): 15 - 5 - 3 - ACC3 -- NBA (4 years, 135 gp, 3 ppg, 2 rpg, 1 apg, $2.9M in career earnings)
- Ekezie (Sr): 13 - 6 - 2 -- NBA (4 years, 143 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.0M in career earnings)
- Dixon (Fr): 7 - 3 - 1 -- NBA (6+ years, 371 gp, 9 ppg, 2 rpg, 2 apg, $8.6M in career earnings)
- Baxter (Fr): 7 - 4 - 1 -- NBA (4 years, 162 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Stokes (Sr): 4 - 3 - 2
#4:
1995:
Final USA Today Ranking: 11
Record: 26 - 8
ACC: 12 - 4 (Co-Champion)
ACC First Round: Beat FSU by 7
ACC Second Round: Lost to UNC by 4
NCAA Seed: 3
NCAA Round 1: Beat Gonzaga by 24
NCAA Round 2: Beat Texas by 14
NCAA Round 3: Lost to UConn by 10 (Allen)
NCAA Champion: UCLA
- Smith (So): 21 - 11 - 1 - ACC1 - ACCPOY - APPOY -- NBA (13+ years, 868 gp, 12 ppg, 7 rpg, 1 apg, $52M in career earnings)
- Rhodes (Jr): 14 - 5 - 4 - ACC3
- Hipp (Jr): 14 - 4 - 3
- Booth (So): 11 - 7 - 2 -- NBA (2 years, 45 gp, 3 ppg, 2 rpg, 1 apg, $2.1M in career earnings)
- Simpkins (Jr): 11 - 2 - 5
- Lucas (Jr): 7 - 4 - 1
- Bristol (Sr): 4 - 1 - 1
#3. 1999: 28 - 6 (#8 in Nation; #2 Seed - Lost to St. Johns in NCAA Third Round)
#4. 1995: 26 - 8 (#11 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCONN in NCAA Third Round)
#5. 1994: 18 - 12 (#11 in Nation; #10 Seed - Lost to Michigan in NCAA Third Round)
#6. 2003: 21 - 10 (#17 in Nation; #6 Seed - Lost to Michigan State in NCAA Third Round)
#7. 1998: 21 - 11 (#22 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Arizona in NCAA Third Round)
#8. 2000: 25 - 10 (#25 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCLA in NCAA Second Round)
#9. 2004: 20 - 12 (#24 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Syracuse in NCAA Second Round)
#10. 2007: 25 - 9 (#23 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Butler in NCAA Second Round)
#11. 1997: 21 - 11 (#32 in Nation; #5 Seed - Lost to College of Charleston in NCAA First Round)
#12. 1996: 17 - 13 (#47 in Nation; #7 Seed - Lost to Santa Clara in NCAA First Round)
#13: 2005: 19 - 13 (Lost to South Carolina in NIT Semi-Finals)
#14. 1990: 19 - 14 (Lost at PSU in NIT Second Round)
#15. 2006: 19 - 13 (Lost to Manhattan in NIT First Round)
#16. 1991: 16 - 12 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#17. 1992: 14 - 15 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#18. 1993: 12 - 16 (Did not make NIT or NCAA Tournament)
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
$50,000,000.
This is the amount of money that Joe Smith lost by turning down a seven year, $80M contract with the Warriors in 1998. He earned a total of $30M in the following seven years. I am guessing that Walt Williams thought it was a bad idea to turn down that contract.
#3:
1999:
Final USA Today Ranking: 8
Record: 28 - 6
ACC: 13 - 3 (second)
ACC First Round: Beat FSU by 24
ACC Second Round: Lost to UNC by 7
NCAA Seed: 2
NCAA Round 1: Beat Valpo by 22
NCAA Round 2: Beat Creighton by 12
NCAA Round 3: Lost to St. Johns by 13 (Artest)
NCAA Champion: UCONN
- Francis (Jr): 17 - 5 - 4 - ACC1 -- NBA (9+ years, 576 gp, 18 ppg, 6 rpg, 6 apg, $65M in career earnings)
- Morris (So): 15 - 7 - 2 - ACC1 -- NBA (3 years, 139 gp, 3 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg, $1.8M in career earnings)
- Profit (Sr): 15 - 5 - 3 - ACC3 -- NBA (4 years, 135 gp, 3 ppg, 2 rpg, 1 apg, $2.9M in career earnings)
- Ekezie (Sr): 13 - 6 - 2 -- NBA (4 years, 143 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.0M in career earnings)
- Dixon (Fr): 7 - 3 - 1 -- NBA (6+ years, 371 gp, 9 ppg, 2 rpg, 2 apg, $8.6M in career earnings)
- Baxter (Fr): 7 - 4 - 1 -- NBA (4 years, 162 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Stokes (Sr): 4 - 3 - 2
#4:
1995:
Final USA Today Ranking: 11
Record: 26 - 8
ACC: 12 - 4 (Co-Champion)
ACC First Round: Beat FSU by 7
ACC Second Round: Lost to UNC by 4
NCAA Seed: 3
NCAA Round 1: Beat Gonzaga by 24
NCAA Round 2: Beat Texas by 14
NCAA Round 3: Lost to UConn by 10 (Allen)
NCAA Champion: UCLA
- Smith (So): 21 - 11 - 1 - ACC1 - ACCPOY - APPOY -- NBA (13+ years, 868 gp, 12 ppg, 7 rpg, 1 apg, $52M in career earnings)
- Rhodes (Jr): 14 - 5 - 4 - ACC3
- Hipp (Jr): 14 - 4 - 3
- Booth (So): 11 - 7 - 2 -- NBA (2 years, 45 gp, 3 ppg, 2 rpg, 1 apg, $2.1M in career earnings)
- Simpkins (Jr): 11 - 2 - 5
- Lucas (Jr): 7 - 4 - 1
- Bristol (Sr): 4 - 1 - 1
#3. 1999: 28 - 6 (#8 in Nation; #2 Seed - Lost to St. Johns in NCAA Third Round)
#4. 1995: 26 - 8 (#11 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCONN in NCAA Third Round)
#5. 1994: 18 - 12 (#11 in Nation; #10 Seed - Lost to Michigan in NCAA Third Round)
#6. 2003: 21 - 10 (#17 in Nation; #6 Seed - Lost to Michigan State in NCAA Third Round)
#7. 1998: 21 - 11 (#22 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Arizona in NCAA Third Round)
#8. 2000: 25 - 10 (#25 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCLA in NCAA Second Round)
#9. 2004: 20 - 12 (#24 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Syracuse in NCAA Second Round)
#10. 2007: 25 - 9 (#23 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Butler in NCAA Second Round)
#11. 1997: 21 - 11 (#32 in Nation; #5 Seed - Lost to College of Charleston in NCAA First Round)
#12. 1996: 17 - 13 (#47 in Nation; #7 Seed - Lost to Santa Clara in NCAA First Round)
#13: 2005: 19 - 13 (Lost to South Carolina in NIT Semi-Finals)
#14. 1990: 19 - 14 (Lost at PSU in NIT Second Round)
#15. 2006: 19 - 13 (Lost to Manhattan in NIT First Round)
#16. 1991: 16 - 12 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#17. 1992: 14 - 15 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#18. 1993: 12 - 16 (Did not make NIT or NCAA Tournament)
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
Thursday, March 13, 2008
MD - BC Notes
This team is a complete disaster. Train wreck.
When BC took the lead at 40 - 39 (after trailing 20 - 5), every MD fan who has watched this team this year knew it was over. No heart. This is a dead horse. This team quit on Gary Williams three weeks ago. They have the fast-forward button down on 3X and are trying to get to the end of the season.
21 Turnovers. This was the story of the season. It is almost as if this team needed a free safety to play in the backcourt to stop the break-aways. There has never been a MD team that was worse at handling the basketball.
Vasquez's Mom saw a version of his game that we didn't see all year. No passion. It is almost as if he heard teammates complaining about his forced offense and he was playing passive to prove a point. He did play solid defense on Rice in the first half. . .not sure why GW decided to use Bowie so much on Rice in the second half. That match-up didn't go well.
Memo to Gary Williams: There is a reason why MD gets dominated on the boards and teams feast on MD inside when Dave Neal is on the court. I have no idea what goes through GW's head when he makes the decision to put in Neal instead of Burney at CRITICAL points in games.
I am not sure Osby could score double-digits right now if he was left alone in an empty gym for forty minutes. The only explanation for his unbelievably inept offensive game has to be lingering effects from the flu. I haven't seen a player's offensive skills erode this fast since Exree Hipp.
Gist was solid for portions of the game. GW did a nice job taking him out of the game when MD went up fifteen to cool him down. . . What exactly was the reason for that substitution? The only explanation is the fear factor with cramps.
MD will get a home game for the NIT next week. GW should do what he should have done three games ago. . . bench Hayes and put in Bowie.
There are 120 minutes to divide up between the 1, 2, and 3 next year:
35 for Vasquez
25 for Milbourne
25 for Bowie
20 for Tucker
15 for Maze
This leaves 80 minutes for the bigs:
25 for Burney
25 for Gilchrist
20 for DuPree
9 for Walker
1 for Neal
I hate to say it. . . but, this looks like another middle of the ACC pack, border-line NCAA tournament caliber team.
Some blogs are calling for Gary Williams to step down. No chance. He is signed through 2011 and there are not better options out there not named Mike Montgomery.
Six years after MD won its first national title, who would have thought that a MD basketball blog would end with these six words. . .
Comcast Center: Women's Basketball Lives Here.
When BC took the lead at 40 - 39 (after trailing 20 - 5), every MD fan who has watched this team this year knew it was over. No heart. This is a dead horse. This team quit on Gary Williams three weeks ago. They have the fast-forward button down on 3X and are trying to get to the end of the season.
21 Turnovers. This was the story of the season. It is almost as if this team needed a free safety to play in the backcourt to stop the break-aways. There has never been a MD team that was worse at handling the basketball.
Vasquez's Mom saw a version of his game that we didn't see all year. No passion. It is almost as if he heard teammates complaining about his forced offense and he was playing passive to prove a point. He did play solid defense on Rice in the first half. . .not sure why GW decided to use Bowie so much on Rice in the second half. That match-up didn't go well.
Memo to Gary Williams: There is a reason why MD gets dominated on the boards and teams feast on MD inside when Dave Neal is on the court. I have no idea what goes through GW's head when he makes the decision to put in Neal instead of Burney at CRITICAL points in games.
I am not sure Osby could score double-digits right now if he was left alone in an empty gym for forty minutes. The only explanation for his unbelievably inept offensive game has to be lingering effects from the flu. I haven't seen a player's offensive skills erode this fast since Exree Hipp.
Gist was solid for portions of the game. GW did a nice job taking him out of the game when MD went up fifteen to cool him down. . . What exactly was the reason for that substitution? The only explanation is the fear factor with cramps.
MD will get a home game for the NIT next week. GW should do what he should have done three games ago. . . bench Hayes and put in Bowie.
There are 120 minutes to divide up between the 1, 2, and 3 next year:
35 for Vasquez
25 for Milbourne
25 for Bowie
20 for Tucker
15 for Maze
This leaves 80 minutes for the bigs:
25 for Burney
25 for Gilchrist
20 for DuPree
9 for Walker
1 for Neal
I hate to say it. . . but, this looks like another middle of the ACC pack, border-line NCAA tournament caliber team.
Some blogs are calling for Gary Williams to step down. No chance. He is signed through 2011 and there are not better options out there not named Mike Montgomery.
Six years after MD won its first national title, who would have thought that a MD basketball blog would end with these six words. . .
Comcast Center: Women's Basketball Lives Here.
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
GW Countdown #5 and #6
#5:
1994:
Final USA Today Ranking: 11
Record: 18 - 12
ACC: 8 - 8 (fourth)
ACC First Round: Lost to UVA by 6
NCAA Seed: 10
NCAA Round 1: Beat St. Louis by 8
NCAA Round 2: Beat UMass by 8
NCAA Round 3: Lost to Michigan by 7 (Fab Four)
NCAA Champion: Arkansas
- Smith (Fr): 19 - 11 - 1 - ACC1 -- NBA (13+ years, 868 gp, 12 ppg, 7 rpg, 1 apg, $52M in career earnings)
- Hipp (So): 13 - 4 - 3
- Rhodes (So): 13 - 7 - 4
- Simpkins (So): 12 - 3 - 5
- Booth (Fr): 11 - 6 - 2 -- NBA (2 years, 45 gp, 3 ppg, 2 rpg, 1 apg, $2.1M in career earnings)
- Lucas (So): 5 - 4 - 0
- Bosnic (Fr): 3 - 2 - 1
#6:
2003:
Final USA Today Ranking: 17
Record: 21 - 10
ACC: 11 - 5
ACC First Round: Lost to UNC by 12
NCAA Seed: 6
NCAA Round 1: Beat UNC Wilmington by 2 (Nicholas Buzzer Beater)
NCAA Round 2: Beat Xavier by 13
NCAA Round 3: Lost to Michigan State by 2
NCAA Champion: Syracuse
- Nicholas (Sr): 18 - 4 - 3 - ACC2
- Randle (Sr): 13 - 7 - 1 - ACC3
- Blake (Sr): 12 - 4 - 7 - ACC1 -- NBA (5+ years, 325 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 4 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Holden (Sr): 9 - 4 - 2
- Caner-Medley (Fr): 9 - 4 - 1
- Smith (Jr): 6 - 4 - 0
- McCall (Sr): 5 - 3 - 2
#5. 1994: 18 - 12 (#11 in Nation; #10 Seed - Lost to Michigan in NCAA Third Round)
#6. 2003: 21 - 10 (#17 in Nation; #6 Seed - Lost to Michigan State in NCAA Third Round)
#7. 1998: 21 - 11 (#22 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Arizona in NCAA Third Round)
#8. 2000: 25 - 10 (#25 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCLA in NCAA Second Round)
#9. 2004: 20 - 12 (#24 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Syracuse in NCAA Second Round)
#10. 2007: 25 - 9 (#23 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Butler in NCAA Second Round)
#11. 1997: 21 - 11 (#32 in Nation; #5 Seed - Lost to College of Charleston in NCAA First Round)
#12. 1996: 17 - 13 (#47 in Nation; #7 Seed - Lost to Santa Clara in NCAA First Round)
#13: 2005: 19 - 13 (Lost to South Carolina in NIT Semi-Finals)
#14. 1990: 19 - 14 (Lost at PSU in NIT Second Round)
#15. 2006: 19 - 13 (Lost to Manhattan in NIT First Round)
#16. 1991: 16 - 12 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#17. 1992: 14 - 15 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#18. 1993: 12 - 16 (Did not make NIT or NCAA Tournament)
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
1994:
Final USA Today Ranking: 11
Record: 18 - 12
ACC: 8 - 8 (fourth)
ACC First Round: Lost to UVA by 6
NCAA Seed: 10
NCAA Round 1: Beat St. Louis by 8
NCAA Round 2: Beat UMass by 8
NCAA Round 3: Lost to Michigan by 7 (Fab Four)
NCAA Champion: Arkansas
- Smith (Fr): 19 - 11 - 1 - ACC1 -- NBA (13+ years, 868 gp, 12 ppg, 7 rpg, 1 apg, $52M in career earnings)
- Hipp (So): 13 - 4 - 3
- Rhodes (So): 13 - 7 - 4
- Simpkins (So): 12 - 3 - 5
- Booth (Fr): 11 - 6 - 2 -- NBA (2 years, 45 gp, 3 ppg, 2 rpg, 1 apg, $2.1M in career earnings)
- Lucas (So): 5 - 4 - 0
- Bosnic (Fr): 3 - 2 - 1
#6:
2003:
Final USA Today Ranking: 17
Record: 21 - 10
ACC: 11 - 5
ACC First Round: Lost to UNC by 12
NCAA Seed: 6
NCAA Round 1: Beat UNC Wilmington by 2 (Nicholas Buzzer Beater)
NCAA Round 2: Beat Xavier by 13
NCAA Round 3: Lost to Michigan State by 2
NCAA Champion: Syracuse
- Nicholas (Sr): 18 - 4 - 3 - ACC2
- Randle (Sr): 13 - 7 - 1 - ACC3
- Blake (Sr): 12 - 4 - 7 - ACC1 -- NBA (5+ years, 325 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 4 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Holden (Sr): 9 - 4 - 2
- Caner-Medley (Fr): 9 - 4 - 1
- Smith (Jr): 6 - 4 - 0
- McCall (Sr): 5 - 3 - 2
#5. 1994: 18 - 12 (#11 in Nation; #10 Seed - Lost to Michigan in NCAA Third Round)
#6. 2003: 21 - 10 (#17 in Nation; #6 Seed - Lost to Michigan State in NCAA Third Round)
#7. 1998: 21 - 11 (#22 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Arizona in NCAA Third Round)
#8. 2000: 25 - 10 (#25 in Nation; #3 Seed - Lost to UCLA in NCAA Second Round)
#9. 2004: 20 - 12 (#24 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Syracuse in NCAA Second Round)
#10. 2007: 25 - 9 (#23 in Nation; #4 Seed - Lost to Butler in NCAA Second Round)
#11. 1997: 21 - 11 (#32 in Nation; #5 Seed - Lost to College of Charleston in NCAA First Round)
#12. 1996: 17 - 13 (#47 in Nation; #7 Seed - Lost to Santa Clara in NCAA First Round)
#13: 2005: 19 - 13 (Lost to South Carolina in NIT Semi-Finals)
#14. 1990: 19 - 14 (Lost at PSU in NIT Second Round)
#15. 2006: 19 - 13 (Lost to Manhattan in NIT First Round)
#16. 1991: 16 - 12 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#17. 1992: 14 - 15 (Banned from NCAA Tournament)
#18. 1993: 12 - 16 (Did not make NIT or NCAA Tournament)
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
Thursday, March 6, 2008
GW Countdown #7 and #8
#7:
1998:
Final USA Today Ranking: 22
Record: 21 - 11
ACC: 10 - 6 (third)
ACC First Round: Beat GT by 18
ACC Second Round: Lost to UNC by 10
NCAA Seed: 4
NCAA Round 1: Beat Utah State by 14
NCAA Round 2: Beat Illinois by 6
NCAA Round 3: Lost to Arizona by 8
NCAA Champion: Kentucky
- Profit (Jr): 16 - 5 - 3 - ACC3 -- NBA (4 years, 135 gp, 3 ppg, 2 rpg, 1 apg, $2.9M in career earnings)
- Elliot (Sr): 15 - 7 - 2 - ACC3
- Ekezie (Jr): 13 - 7 - 2 -- NBA (4 years, 143 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.0M in career earnings)
- Jasikevicious (Sr): 12 - 3 - 4 -- NBA (2 years, 138 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 3 apg, $8M in career earnings)
- Morris (Fr): 7 - 4 - 1 -- NBA (3 years, 139 gp, 3 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg, $1.8M in career earnings)
- Mardesich (Fr): 5 - 4 - 1
- Stokes (Jr): 5 - 3 - 5
#8:
2000:
Final USA Today Ranking: 25
Record: 25 - 10
ACC: 11 - 5 (second)
ACC First Round: Beat FSU by 21
ACC Second Round: Beat NC State by 3
ACC Final: Lost to Duke by 13
NCAA Seed: 3
NCAA Round 1: Beat Iona by 15
NCAA Round 2: Lost to UCLA by 35
NCAA Champion: Michigan State
- Dixon (So): 18 - 6 - 4 - ACC1 -- NBA (6+ years, 371 gp, 9 ppg, 2 rpg, 2 apg, $8.6M in career earnings)
- Morris (Jr): 16 - 9 - 2 - ACC2 -- NBA (3 years, 139 gp, 3 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg, $1.8M in career earnings)
- Baxter (So): 16 - 9 - 1 - ACC1 -- NBA (4 years, 162 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Miller (So): 9 - 3 - 3
- Blake (Fr): 7 - 3 - 6 -- NBA (5+ years, 325 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 4 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Nicholas (Fr): 5 - 1 - 1
- Holden (Fr): 3 - 2 - 1
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
1998:
Final USA Today Ranking: 22
Record: 21 - 11
ACC: 10 - 6 (third)
ACC First Round: Beat GT by 18
ACC Second Round: Lost to UNC by 10
NCAA Seed: 4
NCAA Round 1: Beat Utah State by 14
NCAA Round 2: Beat Illinois by 6
NCAA Round 3: Lost to Arizona by 8
NCAA Champion: Kentucky
- Profit (Jr): 16 - 5 - 3 - ACC3 -- NBA (4 years, 135 gp, 3 ppg, 2 rpg, 1 apg, $2.9M in career earnings)
- Elliot (Sr): 15 - 7 - 2 - ACC3
- Ekezie (Jr): 13 - 7 - 2 -- NBA (4 years, 143 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.0M in career earnings)
- Jasikevicious (Sr): 12 - 3 - 4 -- NBA (2 years, 138 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 3 apg, $8M in career earnings)
- Morris (Fr): 7 - 4 - 1 -- NBA (3 years, 139 gp, 3 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg, $1.8M in career earnings)
- Mardesich (Fr): 5 - 4 - 1
- Stokes (Jr): 5 - 3 - 5
#8:
2000:
Final USA Today Ranking: 25
Record: 25 - 10
ACC: 11 - 5 (second)
ACC First Round: Beat FSU by 21
ACC Second Round: Beat NC State by 3
ACC Final: Lost to Duke by 13
NCAA Seed: 3
NCAA Round 1: Beat Iona by 15
NCAA Round 2: Lost to UCLA by 35
NCAA Champion: Michigan State
- Dixon (So): 18 - 6 - 4 - ACC1 -- NBA (6+ years, 371 gp, 9 ppg, 2 rpg, 2 apg, $8.6M in career earnings)
- Morris (Jr): 16 - 9 - 2 - ACC2 -- NBA (3 years, 139 gp, 3 ppg, 3 rpg, 1 apg, $1.8M in career earnings)
- Baxter (So): 16 - 9 - 1 - ACC1 -- NBA (4 years, 162 gp, 4 ppg, 3 rpg, 0 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Miller (So): 9 - 3 - 3
- Blake (Fr): 7 - 3 - 6 -- NBA (5+ years, 325 gp, 7 ppg, 2 rpg, 4 apg, $3.3M in career earnings)
- Nicholas (Fr): 5 - 1 - 1
- Holden (Fr): 3 - 2 - 1
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
Wednesday, March 5, 2008
GW Countdown #9 and #10
#9:
2004:
Final USA Today Ranking: 24
Record: 20 - 12
ACC: 7 - 9
ACC First Round: Beat Wake by 1
ACC Second Round: Beat NCS by 3
ACC Championship: Beat Duke by 8 (OT)
NCAA Seed: 4
NCAA Round 1: Beat UTEP by 3
NCAA Round 2: Lost to Syracuse by 2
NCAA Champion: UCONN
- Gilchrist (So): 15 - 5 - 5 - ACC3
- Smith (Sr): 13 - 9 - 1
- Caner-Medley (So): 12 - 5 - 2
- McCray (So): 11 - 4 - 3 -- NBA (1 year, 5 gp, 0 ppg, 0 rpg, 0 apg, $161K in career earnings)
- Garrison (So): 8 - 5 - 1
- Strawberry (Fr): 6 - 3 - 1 -- NBA (1 year, 20 gp, 3 ppg, 1 rpg, 1 apg, $427K in career earnings)
- Ibekwe (Fr): 5 - 4 - 0
#10:
2007:
Final USA Today Ranking: 23
Record: 25 - 9
ACC: 10 - 6
ACC First Round: Lost to Miami by 5
NCAA Seed: 4
NCAA Round 1: Beat Davidson by 12
NCAA Round 2: Lost to Butler by 3
NCAA Champion: Florida
- Strawberry (Sr): 15 - 4 - 4 - ACC2 -- NBA (1 year, 20 gp, 3 ppg, 1 rpg, 1 apg, $427K in career earnings)
- Jones (Sr): 14 - 3 - 1
- Gist (Jr): 13 - 7 - 1
- Ibekwe (Sr): 10 - 8 - 1
- Vasquez (Fr): 10 - 3 - 5
- Osby (Jr): 6 - 4 - 1
- Hayes (Fr): 5 - 2 - 4
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
2004:
Final USA Today Ranking: 24
Record: 20 - 12
ACC: 7 - 9
ACC First Round: Beat Wake by 1
ACC Second Round: Beat NCS by 3
ACC Championship: Beat Duke by 8 (OT)
NCAA Seed: 4
NCAA Round 1: Beat UTEP by 3
NCAA Round 2: Lost to Syracuse by 2
NCAA Champion: UCONN
- Gilchrist (So): 15 - 5 - 5 - ACC3
- Smith (Sr): 13 - 9 - 1
- Caner-Medley (So): 12 - 5 - 2
- McCray (So): 11 - 4 - 3 -- NBA (1 year, 5 gp, 0 ppg, 0 rpg, 0 apg, $161K in career earnings)
- Garrison (So): 8 - 5 - 1
- Strawberry (Fr): 6 - 3 - 1 -- NBA (1 year, 20 gp, 3 ppg, 1 rpg, 1 apg, $427K in career earnings)
- Ibekwe (Fr): 5 - 4 - 0
#10:
2007:
Final USA Today Ranking: 23
Record: 25 - 9
ACC: 10 - 6
ACC First Round: Lost to Miami by 5
NCAA Seed: 4
NCAA Round 1: Beat Davidson by 12
NCAA Round 2: Lost to Butler by 3
NCAA Champion: Florida
- Strawberry (Sr): 15 - 4 - 4 - ACC2 -- NBA (1 year, 20 gp, 3 ppg, 1 rpg, 1 apg, $427K in career earnings)
- Jones (Sr): 14 - 3 - 1
- Gist (Jr): 13 - 7 - 1
- Ibekwe (Sr): 10 - 8 - 1
- Vasquez (Fr): 10 - 3 - 5
- Osby (Jr): 6 - 4 - 1
- Hayes (Fr): 5 - 2 - 4
Note: The NBA statistics and salary information is from basketball-reference.com. It was valid as of March, 2008.
Sunday, March 2, 2008
MD - Clemson Notes
NCAA Chances: 70%
Projected Record on Selection Sunday: 21 - 13 (this would be a 9 seed)
MD was up 59 - 39 with 11 minutes remaining. . . only to be outscored 34 - 11.
The end of the game was similar to what happened at WF three nights earlier. No killer instinct. We have seen this thoughout the year as they have squandered leads very easily.
It is not so much the number of turnovers that plagues this team. . . it is the type of turnovers, the time of game when these turnovers occur, and the easy conversions that result. Despite his impressive assist per game figure, Vasquez is still playing out of position; he is a two. Hayes is also a two. GW needs to bring in a pure PG recruit so that Hayes can play the two and Vasquez can play the three at times next year.
Sometimes, a seemingly innocent coaching decision can have a dramatic impact on the outcome of the game. Tonight, it was putting McAlpin and Neal into the game with ten minutes left. This is a move you make with five minutes remaining. This move signals the end of the game and is essentially the coach telling the team to start the bus.
It is kind of like Dusty Baker giving the game ball to Russ Ortiz with eight outs remaining up 5 - 0 in game six of the 2002 World Series.
I used to think that the most amazing comeback in a MD game was the team that was down 22 with 13 minutes left at UNC in 1996 and came back to win by six. . .
Vasquez had a quadruple seven. . . to go along with an 0 for 5 performance from distance.
The development of Bowie and Burney makes MD a team that can pull a second-round surprise if they can get into the tournament. MD is now a legitimate eight deep.
If MD loses to UVA, this means that they would need to win three ACC tournament games to get in. 20 - 14 equals NIT.
A win at UVA and two wins (TH and FR) puts the Terps in. A win at UVA and only one win in Charlotte = 20 - 13 = NCAA bubble = 12 seed or, most likely, NIT.
Projected Record on Selection Sunday: 21 - 13 (this would be a 9 seed)
MD was up 59 - 39 with 11 minutes remaining. . . only to be outscored 34 - 11.
The end of the game was similar to what happened at WF three nights earlier. No killer instinct. We have seen this thoughout the year as they have squandered leads very easily.
It is not so much the number of turnovers that plagues this team. . . it is the type of turnovers, the time of game when these turnovers occur, and the easy conversions that result. Despite his impressive assist per game figure, Vasquez is still playing out of position; he is a two. Hayes is also a two. GW needs to bring in a pure PG recruit so that Hayes can play the two and Vasquez can play the three at times next year.
Sometimes, a seemingly innocent coaching decision can have a dramatic impact on the outcome of the game. Tonight, it was putting McAlpin and Neal into the game with ten minutes left. This is a move you make with five minutes remaining. This move signals the end of the game and is essentially the coach telling the team to start the bus.
It is kind of like Dusty Baker giving the game ball to Russ Ortiz with eight outs remaining up 5 - 0 in game six of the 2002 World Series.
I used to think that the most amazing comeback in a MD game was the team that was down 22 with 13 minutes left at UNC in 1996 and came back to win by six. . .
Vasquez had a quadruple seven. . . to go along with an 0 for 5 performance from distance.
The development of Bowie and Burney makes MD a team that can pull a second-round surprise if they can get into the tournament. MD is now a legitimate eight deep.
If MD loses to UVA, this means that they would need to win three ACC tournament games to get in. 20 - 14 equals NIT.
A win at UVA and two wins (TH and FR) puts the Terps in. A win at UVA and only one win in Charlotte = 20 - 13 = NCAA bubble = 12 seed or, most likely, NIT.
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